Are People Really this Dumb?

Friday, October 20, 2006

So roommate, her friend, and I found a townhouse that we love love love (to rent). Our lease is up November 30, and we really don't want to stay in the tiny little apartment we're in right now, especially when we can rent a townhouse for about the same amount of money. The only catch is that the place we found (and adore) is huge, and the rent is a little higher than we are willing to pay. The solution- rent out the basement to a 4th person (trust me, this place could comfortably fit 6, so 4 is not a big deal). So I posted an ad on Craigslist to find that 4th person. We have a few good candidates, but what I've noticed more than anything is the number of scam emails I get. Last year when we were looking for a roommate, I remember only getting one or two of them. In the three times that I've placed the ad, I've gotten easily 30 scams- some of them with the exact same message. It's really getting annoying. Some examples:

Jane Mark
HelloHow are you doing,I went through your advert on craigslist and I have developed a profound interested in your room,I will be moving to state soon and am hoping to be there for my educational leave and also looking forward to have my Master degree in a good university around.So am looking to spend almost 12 month in your state.....please i'll like to know the total move in cost of the room and the breakdown details of the house and the utilities as well as the picture of the house if available,as i'll not be able to check out the place until my arrival,Aarrangement can be made for payment prior to my arrival since i'll be moving down from Uk as soon as i'm able to reach an accord with you......Method of payment???Here is a little info about myself...... I am Jane Mark,26 years old female. work with a ACTEXO TEXTILES LIMITED in UK Regional office,gentle easy going i dont smoke but sport lover and outgoing person, am 5.4fit plus tall. Moreso i do want to know from others and know seek others people opinion and respect others choices as long as they do not harm others and generally am very happy. I am very outgoing and enjoy meeting others. I do not smoke. I am very interested in other cultures and find each and every person interesting to me and like hearing what they have to say on matters. Well, I guess that is about me for now.I'll expecting your email as soon as possible..pls kindly reply me your email to my privat email box Await your kind response .Talk to you later .Jane

Lauren Greg

Oct 19 (1 day ago)
How are u doing? I saw ur advert pls u will have tomail with the details of the room to includes rents and utilities.But let mejust give some hints about myself. My name is Lauren Greg 26, Female,Straight a christian born in USA and am a model but I am presently in africaon a modelling contract and i will be back to the state this october.I would like to move inthis month.I would like to rent for a long term period.I really need a placeto put my head when i get to the state.I am a very happy, independent,educated, reliable person that get along with pretty much anyone,very niceand loving person,fun to be with.i dont keep late nite.most importantly I amrespectful of other\'s privacy,time,and personal items.Do you accept a(CASHIER CHECK/INT\' MONEY ORDER) as a mode of payment.. Please let me know yourmind on this.I will like to know more about you This is very important Regards"


Or, my favorite, the down-right rude emails:
Hi
I came accross the posted house for rent.i ll like to know if its still available email me again with the below details so we can proceed and have some things done concerning the Rent.

Kindly email me with
1} RENT FEE.MONTHLY 2} MOVE-IN DEPOSIT 3} ADDRESS OF THE PLACE FOR RENT 4) WILL YOU TAKE A CASHIERS CHEQUE/MONEY ORDER FOR MOVE-IN DEPOSIT 5} HOW LONG RENT LEASE DO YOU REQUIRE ( 6/12 MONTHS ) 6) DO YOU HAVE PICTURES ? SEND THEM
I will be expecting to read answers to the above questions asap my email adderess is; mareenfbd323
@yahoo.com Regards.
Maureen.


I personally love when people who want to be my roommate send demanding emails- "Do you have pictures? Send them." and "I will be expecting to read answers to the above questions asap." Well, then I guess you will be disappointed, since I am not sending you shit.

I had finally had enough the other night, and decided to start replying to them. My email:

"question- does anyone actually fall for this scam??! I've received about 20 different emails that all say exactly the same thing, all from different senders. If you people want to steal money from people, you're going to need to get more creative, especially when you just relpied to all 3 of the ads I had listed at the exact same time with the exact same (horrible) wording. Stop trying to rip people off- we Americans are not quite that stupid."

There was one of those responses that I got that had sent the exact same email to all three of my email addresses (I have the place listed 3 times, each with a different email address), so I made damn sure I responded to that person all three times (from the different email addresses) with the exact same response.

I haven't heard back from any of them yet, and I'm sure I won't, and they won't stop trying to pull this scam, but damn it felt good.

So here's the question- are we really that stupid that, after hearing about these scams all over the place, and considering Craigslist warns you about scams, we would actually fall for this?

29 comments:

Hey Pretty 10/20/2006 01:21:00 PM  

I experienced the very same thing while trying to fill a room in our house recently. At first I thought it was somebody with really poor social skills and writing abilities. Then I posted a similar entry on my blog and a commenter set me straight. Very weird, I agree.

Velvet 10/20/2006 02:21:00 PM  

Heh. Is that the real email?

Golden Silence 10/20/2006 02:21:00 PM  

Why do people do this? What would they have to gain out of it? If you saved the IP or e-mail address, is there any way you could report them to CraigsList?

Velvet 10/20/2006 02:21:00 PM  

I meant, the real email address?

White Dade 10/20/2006 02:42:00 PM  

Please explain to me how exactly thi is a money scam? They aren't really asking for any perosn info, are they? I'm justa bit confused...

Anonymous,  10/20/2006 02:42:00 PM  

I'm not sure I understand. how is it that they think they're going to get money from you?

Sweet 10/20/2006 02:53:00 PM  

I wonder if there's a correlation between the people who fell for these scams and the people who re-elected Bush?

allan 10/20/2006 06:25:00 PM  

Short answer to an easy question: Yes!

nicole 10/20/2006 11:48:00 PM  

I know I live a sheltered life but I have to admit that I had no idea there were HOUSING scams out there. Usually in a housing transaction the money only flows in one direction -- to the landlord. So what exactly are these people trying to accomplish, here??

Second, I need to know all about this luxurious townhouse. Where is it??

Eric 10/21/2006 06:37:00 AM  

I'd like to think anyone of reasonable intelligence would be tip off by how horribly those emails were written but sadly I'm sure there are plenty of stupid people in this world that would fall for that.

AlienCG 10/21/2006 07:24:00 AM  

I notice that none of these directly mention Virginia, just, "your state." I love the way these e-mails try to sound genuine, but are so obviously generated and generic. Check out whoever you choose as a roomie.

allan 10/21/2006 01:07:00 PM  

Nicole, send $50 to my paypal account and I will send you a detailed explanation of how this scam works...PLEASE make sure you include your mailing address, checking account number, routing number, your mothers maiden name and either your PIN or your Social Security Number :)

flic 10/21/2006 03:38:00 PM  

I don't like scam emails, either.

Wez 10/22/2006 10:40:00 AM  

So... do you have pictures? = )

Ricardo 10/22/2006 05:49:00 PM  

unfortunately you'll get a whole lot of this stuff with Craig's list. Pictures? Ask for hers!

Sicclife,  10/27/2006 12:16:00 AM  

This is a scam to get a reply so that they can add your information to a national spam database.

Anonymous,  10/27/2006 12:16:00 AM  

This is a scam to get a reply so that they can add your information to a national spam database.

Bonnie Kake,  11/05/2006 06:54:00 PM  

I got email from one of the same people you did, I googled her name and your blog came up. This time "your state" is replaced with "australia" and "october" with "november."


How are u doing? I saw ur advert,pls u will have to mail with the details of the room to includes rents and utilities.But let me just give some hints about myself. My name is lauren greg 26 female, Straight a christian born in USA and am a model but I am presently in africa on a
modelling contract, and I will be comeing to AUSTRALIA this NOVEMBER,I would like to move in
this month.and I would like to rent for a long term
period.I really need a place to put my head
when i get to AUSTRALIA . I am a very happy,
independent, educated, reliable person that get along with
pretty much anyone,very nice and loving
person, fun to be with.i dont keep late
nite.most importantly I am respectful of other's privacy,time,and
personal items.Do you accept a ( cHEQUE) as a mode of payment..
Please let me know your mind on this.

Regards
LAUREN


I also don't understand the point of such scams. Is it to waste peoples time?

~ Bonnie

Anonymous,  11/07/2006 09:47:00 PM  

Hey, guys..

I receive exact the same message as you guys.


" Hello
How are you doing,I went through your advert on craigslist and I have developed a profound interested in your room,I will be moving to state soon and am hoping to be there for my educational leave and also looking forward to have my Master degree in a good university around.So am looking to spend almost 12 month in your state.....please i'll like to know the total move in cost of the room and the breakdown details of the house and the utilities as well as the picture of the house if available,as i'll not be able to check out the place until my arrival,Aarrangement can be made for payment prior to my arrival since i'll be moving down from Uk as soon as i'm able to reach an accord with you......Method of payment???
Here is a little info about myself...... I am andy daves,26 years old male. work with a ACTEXO TEXTILES LIMITED in UK Regional office,gentle easy going i dont smoke but sport lover and outgoing person, am 5.4fit plus tall. Moreso i do want to know from others and know seek others people opinion and respect others choices as long as they do not harm others and generally am very happy. I am very outgoing and enjoy meeting others. I do not smoke. I am very interested in other cultures and find each and every person interesting to me and like hearing what they have to say on matters. Well, I guess that is about me for now.
I'll expecting your email as soon as possible..pls kindly reply me your email to my privat email box Await your kind response .
Talk to you later . "

Since I feel fishy, I googled ACTEXO TEXTILES LIMITED, and found out your site. Now I knew that I got a scam email.

Thanks for offering your experience!

Sally

Love and peace

Anonymous,  11/13/2006 02:08:00 PM  

Lauren Greg´s message sends me exactlu the same text, and I´m from Barcelona.
Afortunately, I look for that name on google, and I found your blog.
That message have arrived me today.

Anonymous,  11/21/2006 06:13:00 PM  

I wonder who is behind this Lauren Greg I found your blog because I posted an ad on Craigs list to rent my flat in....Paris She sure gets around Lauren!

Anonymous,  11/23/2006 07:15:00 AM  

Yup I have recieved attached message from Lauren for a place in a flat in Bristol England. I still don't understand the point of this other than time wasting.

"How are u doing? I saw ur advert,pls u will have to mail with the details of the room to includes rents and utilities.But let me just give some hints about myself. My name is lauren greg 26 female, Straight a christian born in USA and am a model but I am presently in africa on a
modelling contract, and I will be in UK first week in December,I would like to move in
in fast.andwould like to rent for a long term
period.I really need a place to put my head
when i get to the UK .I am a very happy,
independent, educated, reliable person that get along with pretty much anyone,very nice and loving
person,fun to be with.i dont keep late
nite.most importantly I am respectful of other's privacy,time,and personal items.Do you accept a (banker draft/ cheque) as a mode of payment.. Please let me know your mind on this.
Regards
lauren greg"

Anonymous,  11/23/2006 07:20:00 AM  

Same reply for a appartment in Bristol England today 23/11/06 email as follows;
How are u doing? I saw ur advert,pls u will have to mail with the details of the room to includes rents and utilities.But let me just give some hints about myself. My name is lauren greg 26 female, Straight a christian born in USA and am a model but I am presently in africa on a
modelling contract, and I will be in UK first week in December,I would like to move in
in fast.andwould like to rent for a long term
period.I really need a place to put my head
when i get to the UK .I am a very happy,
independent, educated, reliable person that get along with pretty much anyone,very nice and loving
person,fun to be with.i dont keep late
nite.most importantly I am respectful of other's privacy,time,and personal items.Do you accept a (banker draft/ cheque) as a mode of payment.. Please let me know your mind on this.
Regards
lauren greg

Anonymous,  11/23/2006 07:21:00 AM  

I recieved attached email filling a room in a flat in Bristol England, why is teh question?

How are u doing? I saw ur advert,pls u will have to mail with the details of the room to includes rents and utilities.But let me just give some hints about myself. My name is lauren greg 26 female, Straight a christian born in USA and am a model but I am presently in africa on a
modelling contract, and I will be in UK first week in December,I would like to move in
in fast.andwould like to rent for a long term
period.I really need a place to put my head
when i get to the UK .I am a very happy,
independent, educated, reliable person that get along with pretty much anyone,very nice and loving
person,fun to be with.i dont keep late
nite.most importantly I am respectful of other's privacy,time,and personal items.Do you accept a (banker draft/ cheque) as a mode of payment.. Please let me know your mind on this.
Regards
lauren greg

Anonymous,  11/25/2006 07:13:00 AM  

We are from Valencia Spain and had the same experience of the super model lauren greg, seems they are pre-fabricated e-mails which don´t have any sense when she replies you. I mean, you ask her something or try to explain her that she doesn´t have to pay with such advance and she just keep on talking about herself and her weird way of payment.

Anonymous,  11/29/2006 04:27:00 PM  

Well, I'm one of the naive netizens on the web I guess. I have an ad on craigslist for a rental property and recieved two of these emails over the last couple of days. I thought it was for real at first but found it unusual that this Lauren Greg was giving so much personal info. I felt like I was reading a personal ad for a dating service. So I googled her name, figuring if she was a "super model" her face would show up all over the web. Well it didn't, instead I found this blog about these emails and the BS behind it. Thanks for clarifying what my gut was already telling me, too good to be true.

Anonymous,  12/10/2006 06:05:00 PM  

More information about LAUREN GREG:

ok here is the information to send the money to
Lauren Greg
20 Maryland Road
Maryland
23401
Lagos
Nigeria
and my agent located in usa and he travelled
alot




I AM WORKING FOR OVATION
PHONE ARE 603-736-8980 563-736-9898-9
NAME OF MY AGENT IS STEPHEN BISHOP
SENDING THE CHEQUE THRU UPS
BECAUSE I ALWAYS GET PAID THRU CHEQUE AND I AM PRESENTLY IN AFRICA AND CHEQUE IS NOT CASHABLE HERE
NOPE AM NOT GONNA WORK IN MALAGA


Sergio.

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Anonymous,  5/13/2009 02:17:00 AM  

This scam just never gets old
"
HELLO,


My name is Lisa Daniels. I work with ACTEXO TEXTILES LIMITED in London ,and you can
check out our work on the website:www.actexotextile.com. We are into Fabrics Related
materials and exhibitions of some natives fabrics wears.

I have some exhibition to show case in Canada which will take me some time.However, i
will be moving in First or second week of February and i will be staying for 8months
or depending on how long the project takes ok, please i 'll like to know the total
move in cost of the room and the breakdown details of the house and the utilities as
well as the picture of the house if available,as i 'll not be able to check out the
place until my arrival, So arrangement can be made for payment prior to my arrival
since i 'll be moving down from London as soon as I'm able to reach an accord with you.

However,i m 26 single lady very gentle easy going i don't smoke but sport lover and
outgoing person, am 5.4fit plus tall. More so i do want to know from others and seek
others people opinion and respect others choices as long as they do not harm others
and generally am very happy. I am very outgoing and I enjoy meeting others. I do not
smoke. I like plants and animals, but the only animals I have are fishes.

I have a very good sense of humor and tend to make most others laugh all the time.I
like to go bowling and out to eat with friends. I am very interested in other cultures
and find each and every person interesting to me and like hearing what they have to
say on matters. Well, I guess that is about me for now.i hope you won't mind if i
should send you my pic as a form of formal introduction?
Await your kind response .

Lisa."

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